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Stop Gambling With Your Customers

Stop Gambling With Your Customers

Businessman at Card Table“If you like to gam­ble, I tell you I’m your man. You win some, you lose some, it’s all the same to me.”Motorhead’s “Ace of Spades”

I’m get­ting fed up.

It seems to me that prod­uct launches of late have less to do with sub­stance and strat­egy, and more to do with tricks and tac­tics. Blame it on the econ­omy. But I think we need to blame it on some­thing else. Some­thing more sinister.

In fact, have you not noticed that a grow­ing num­ber of mar­keters are urg­ing you to join their “club,” as if it’s some secret, back-​​of-​​the-​​room, clan­des­tine poker game?

Speak­ing of poker, busi­ness is some­what of a gam­ble. And admit­tedly, gam­bling can be prof­itable. Very prof­itable. After all, the more you gam­ble, the greater you win, right?

But do we really need to gam­ble with our customers?

What about the long-​​term? What about build­ing busi­nesses rather than just mak­ing money? What about invest­ing instead? What about invest­ing in your cus­tomers that can pay some­times 10 to 100 times more over the long run?

For exam­ple, some­one men­tioned a new pay-​​per-​​follower pro­gram on Twit­ter. (Ugh. How is that any dif­fer­ent than from spam­mers buy­ing bulk email lists?) I responded, and this pretty much sums up my phi­los­o­phy — it should be yours, too — with:

I’d hate to treat my cus­tomers like pris­on­ers or prostitutes.”

Worse yet, I’d hate to see them lose. Because when you gam­ble, there’s always a win­ner and a loser. And if you’re the one who wins, then… Well, do the math.

But what irks me even more — and I started a firestorm of debate on Twit­ter because of my rant — is that every­one is pro­mot­ing the same prod­uct launch, often using the same gaw­daw­ful email copy, and often try­ing to out­com­pete each other with myr­iad bonuses.

With these “mega-​​launches,” my con­tention is so many peo­ple are pro­mot­ing the same thing, it’s sick­en­ing. Plus, this only dilutes their value. Less sig­nal, more noise. What­ever hap­pened to being unique, serv­ing your cus­tomers, and offer­ing qual­ity information?

Why am I say­ing all this?

This week my inbox got flooded with the same prod­uct launch emails. Bleeech! I’ve said this before, but my good friend Paul Myers said it best when he said: “Inter­net mar­keters are a bunch of inces­tu­ous can­ni­bals.” How true that has become.

Some mar­keters have even slipped in the “club” word in their pro­mo­tional mes­sages of late, as if it’s some inside joke that only its mem­bers and a few insid­ers would get.

Really? Wow. Are we that naive?

Don’t join the club. Don’t drink the kool-​​aid. Don’t be sheeple. If you don’t know what “sheeple” means, here’s the def­i­n­i­tion. The pas­sage I like and want to note is this one:

“Sheeple: per­sons who vol­un­tar­ily acqui­esce to a per­ceived author­ity, or sug­ges­tion with­out suf­fi­cient research to fully under­stand the scope of the ram­i­fi­ca­tions involved in that deci­sion, and thus under­mine their own human individuality.”

If you want another exam­ple, read the chap­ter, titled “Cult Lead­ers,” in my wife Sylvie Fortin’s Inter​net​Mar​ket​ingSins​.com free down­load­able ebook.

Instead, be a con­trar­ian. Be unique. Be above it. Sim­ply, as Earl Nightin­gale once said, “Don’t copy. Cre­ate!” Or as I often say, “Don’t dupli­cate. Differentiate.”

Instead of pro­mot­ing the same prod­uct mega-​​launch every­one and their pet rock is pro­mot­ing, or worse yet pil­ing on bonuses — bonuses you used to sell and that peo­ple have paid full price for, no doubt — try­ing to outdo com­pet­ing affil­i­ates, why don’t you offer some­thing new? Some­thing dif­fer­ent? Some­thing better?

(And believe me, after see­ing the qual­ity of some of the infor­ma­tion out there these days, there’s def­i­nitely plenty of oppor­tu­ni­ties for some­thing better.)

Seth Godin taught us about the power of the “Pur­ple Cow.” That is, the idea that you need to be cre­ative enough to come up with a unique prod­uct, ser­vice, or offer­ing to set your­self apart from the crowd… one that can sell itself based on its own merits.

But some peo­ple on Twit­ter have remarked that it’s hard work. I agree it’s work. But you don’t have to have a “pur­ple cow.” Maybe just paint your barn doors purple.

It’s a great start. ;)

And by gosh, why don’t you at least zoom in on your core com­pe­tency, focus on your niche, and cul­ti­vate or com­mu­ni­cate what makes you unique? I mean, there’s always some­thing unique about you. For starters, there’s only one “you!”

Or, what twist can you give your­self, your prod­uct, or your offer to make you appear unique? Even bet­ter, how can you serve your mar­ket in a unique way?

Be bold. Be dif­fer­ent. Bedazzle.

There are many exam­ples. For one, take a look at copy­writer Randy Gage’s arti­cle or visit den­tist Paddi Lund’s web­site. They dared to be different!

Stop doing what every­one else is doing. And please, stop try­ing to be all things to all peo­ple. I know it’s not easy, and it doesn’t have to be some ultra-​​targeted micro-​​niche, either. You can go after a mass mar­ket, as long as you do, or offer, some­thing different.

Unfor­tu­nately, I know peo­ple are hurt­ing right now, and some mar­keters know this all too well — never mind the FUD (i.e., “fear, uncer­tainty, and doubt”) they cre­ate in order to exploit it. Peo­ple are scared of “dif­fer­ent,” but many gurus instill this mind­set, too.

They com­pound it by say­ing the usual buzz­words or phrases peo­ple want to hear, like, “Do what is proven,” “you don’t need to rein­vent the wheel,” “I made it easy for you,” “it’s a turnkey busi­ness,” “just dupli­cate my suc­cess­ful model,” etc.

How­ever, you only have to be a lit­tle different.

Brian Tracy once said many have made mil­lions by just being 10% dif­fer­ent. Yes, just a tiny bit dif­fer­ent. A great exam­ple? Wendy’s® makes burg­ers, just like every other fast-​​food burger joint. But their pat­ties have cor­ners. They are square, not round.

I under­stand being dif­fer­ent is a risk. Pro­mot­ing the same things as every­one else has lit­tle risk, espe­cially if it’s proven to sell. But gains are com­men­su­rate with risks. The big­ger the risk, the larger the profit wind­fall. Sounds a lot like gam­bling, huh?

But the dif­fer­ence is, you’re gam­bling with your­self, not with your cus­tomers. You can win big. And sure, you can lose big, too. But you can also take cal­cu­lated risks and reduce your poten­tial down­side. Such as by taking…

… Baby steps.

In fact, right now is a per­fect oppor­tu­nity to be dif­fer­ent and go against the grain. Think about it. If every­one does the same thing, how much more eye-​​gravity, curios­ity, and inter­est can you almost instantly cre­ate by being different?

Need­less to say, some will rebut with, “But pro­mot­ing some­thing my audi­ence needs and will love, isn’t that a ser­vice and not a dis­ser­vice?” What you should ask is, are you really serv­ing your cus­tomers by forc­ing them to do what every­one else is doing?

If every­one imple­ments the new­fan­gled cookie-​​cutter strat­egy being taught in mega-​​launches, it will result in its dilu­tion, more foot­prints, greater penal­iza­tion risk (remem­ber the infa­mous “Google Slap”?), less inter­est, more com­pe­ti­tion, etc.

Some have said, “But Michel, most peo­ple who buy this stuff will never take action, which makes the strate­gies poten­tially ben­e­fi­cial for those who imple­ment them.”

True. But are we talk­ing strate­gies, here? Or tac­tics? Are we talk­ing prin­ci­ples? Or drive-​​by mar­ket­ing ploys that exploit weak­nesses rather than serve customers?

Plus, don’t be so naive to think that mar­keters expect every­one to imple­ment what they teach. In fact, they not only expect that only a few will, they also rely on it.

They also rely on the fact that many will imple­ment what they teach, and imple­ment it badly. So badly, in fact, that these mar­keters are killing their own com­pe­ti­tion.

Of course, they’re not being bla­tantly overt about it. That would be coun­ter­pro­duc­tive. No, they’re doing it indi­rectly… sub­tly… incon­spic­u­ously… unsuspectingly.

So that, when every­one is doing what, er, every­one is doing, it often results in costly, lon­glast­ing, even dev­as­tat­ing ram­i­fi­ca­tions. Ram­i­fi­ca­tions to oth­ers, not them­selves. After all, they’ve made their money teach­ing you their tech­niques. They’re happy.

And when their cus­tomers even­tu­ally get “slapped” (and they all do), just look at how easy it is for them to blame oth­ers. They blame the slap­per, other cus­tomers abus­ing the sys­tem, or the cus­tomers them­selves for “fail­ing to do it right.”

So, if you’re at all tempted to join the club, copy every­one else, game a sys­tem, or gam­ble with your cus­tomers, remem­ber that famous adage, “The house always wins.”

Here’s one final issue.

Many peo­ple don’t dare to be dif­fer­ent, not because it’s risky or scary, but because it takes work. Or they’re expect­ing those they emu­late or pro­mote for will reciprocate.

Just like the whole aut­o­fol­low fiasco on Twit­ter, where peo­ple fol­low oth­ers with the sole expec­ta­tion of a follow-​​back (and this is just as disin­gen­u­ous as aut­o­fol­low), peo­ple pro­mote for oth­ers expect­ing oth­ers to pro­mote for them in return.

In most cases, that won’t ever hap­pen. Why? Because most mar­keters, who are only doing it only for them­selves, jus­tify it with, “Isn’t that why I pay affil­i­ate com­mis­sions for?”

But in other cases, it will hap­pen, thus per­pet­u­at­ing the whole cycli­cal, inces­tu­ous, let’s-all-promote-each-other, mega-​​launch mad­ness that need­lessly clogs our inboxes.

(A term of a sex­ual nature comes to mind that would befit as an anal­ogy, but I’ll refrain. I’d like to keep my blog some­what PG-​​rated. Let’s just say, it’s made up of two words that sound like a geo­met­ric shape and a Steve Mar­tin movie.) ;)

In short, don’t sell prod­ucts, serve people.

Don’t fol­low every­one else, start your own following.

If you want some ideas on how you can be dif­fer­ent, read one of my ear­lier blog posts on how to be the first, not the best. Being dif­fer­ent nowa­days can be as sim­ple as not doing what every­one else is doing. You don’t need a com­plete over­haul, either.

You just need to, at the very least…

Think differently.

OK, my rant’s over. So let me close by ask­ing you, what makes you dif­fer­ent or unique? Or what can you make unique? And how do you com­mu­ni­cate it? I’m listening…

UPDATE #1: Some peo­ple have com­mented that I’m against prod­uct launches. Not at all. Prod­uct launches are incred­i­bly prof­itable, for good rea­son. Prob­lem is, when every­one is in on a prod­uct launch, the signal-​​to-​​noise ratio dimin­ishes. All I’m say­ing is that I’m miffed that there’s not enough unique­ness or alter­na­tives to compensate.

Also, some peo­ple (many, actu­ally) have won­dered why I don’t name names. Some have said they want me to, to con­firm, for them, who I’m speak­ing out against. Well, I don’t want to name names for three reasons…

  1. I want to refrain from fin­ger­point­ing any­one. I want to focus on bad behav­iors and prac­tices, not peo­ple. Besides, my rants won’t change these folks. They’re meant to make read­ers who are con­tem­plat­ing these tac­tics to think before they jump off the prover­bial cliff.
  2. When nam­ing names, it reduces my rant to a petu­lant whine or com­plaint, with no basis or merit. I’d rather rant about what irks me, and by the same token offer an alter­nate solu­tion to counter it — just like my wife did in her Inter­net Mar­ket­ing Sins report.
  3. Finally, and prob­a­bly more impor­tantly, by nam­ing names I’m pigeon­hol­ing spe­cific mar­keters (when many of them are not alone). It could be mis­lead­ing. The prob­lem with this is, read­ers will think, “He talked about guru [X], but my guru is [Y], so I guess what guru [Y] says or does is accept­able,” when it’s not.

Makes sense?

UPDATE #2: Just got this inter­est­ing video by Bryan Bliss. He makes some excel­lent points, espe­cially com­par­ing prod­uct launches to pol­i­tics. Makes per­fect sense. Take a look…

By the way, Bryan, you did pro­nounce my name right. ;)

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  • I have actually mentioned a particular launch 3 times on my blog in the last week, but hopefully I used the opportunity to highlight some additional issues or provide some unique value to the content.
    One thing I made sure I didn't do is offer a bonus - sure it would have added a few sales, but whatever I could have offered would have been dwarfed by the "mega bundles", and ultimately would have taken something unique away to anything I might offer in the future, unless I offered a whole load of PLR.

    Here is the way I look at it

    Affiliate Sales x 1000% with bonus < Own product sales +110%

    Offering a bonus might increase my affiliate sales 10 fold, but the same bonus would most likely increase the sales of one of my own products by more than 10%

    The only way a bonus fits into my calculations is when it would tie into the work I would have to do anyway, or as a suitable way of gathering testimonials for a beta product before launch.

    If I had a staff of 30 pumping out material, or a good bonus only cost me 1hour on the telephone, maybe I would have a different perspective.
  • Hey Michel,

    Tres bien!

    This really does need to be said -- EVERYTHING is changing and it's for the better.

    Why?

    We must begin -- more than ever -- to "Demonstrate Value."

    As I've been teaching copywriters for some time -- Don't rely on "your portfolio."

    Go to a prospective clients website -- recognize a place where you can improve the copy they already have and show them a small sample -- "Show them" what you'd do...

    FOR THEM -- not what you "have done" for others.

    It's in fact, what I'm doing with My USP for copywriters teleseminars over at www.realitycopywriting.com and it's dead on with what you're pointing to here.

    We all are different and how we are different is our unique positioning -- I call it your Dynamic positioning. Pulling pieces (strategically) from who you are -- your story -- your persona -- your unique resonance -- and as you say being different.

    -- Imagine a poet being able to differentiate herself in the copywriting marketplace.

    -- Another struggling copywriter using his Chiropractic "experience" to differentiate.

    -- And yet another using his Tai Chi training with a 97 year old Master.

    It's just not that difficult but it is now necessary so my guess is...

    We're all about to become a lot more honest, more attentive and be forced to differentiate or die.

    copywriting

    If you feel this is to 'about me' -- no worries if you prefer not to post it -- I'm just sincerely inspired by your post and "went with it."

    -- Shaune
  • Larry
    YES - finally someone said what should have been said a long time ago. I am signed up to a large number of websites, and it's easy to tell whenever a product launch is about to take place. For the next few weeks my inbox is flooded with "great news - read this" type of emails.... and they all say the same thing.... "this is a must read, what a value, click on quickly". And then I am left with the empty feeling knowing that many of the marketers really were not looking out for my best interest, but rather their own pocket. Shouldn't a great product be able to stand on it's own without hundreds of affiliates all promoting it. I have to wonder how many other people feel the way I do - kind of let down.
  • Paul
    Yep,

    After [name withheld] and lots of other similar "launches", I won't buy anything from [names witheld], or people trying to sell me in any manner that treats me like a cheap whore.

    After all, if they want to get in my pants (wallet), a fancy dance isn't required. It just makes them appear deceptive.

    I wish all markers would read the "Sins" book and get a F-ing clue of how NOT to treat people.
  • Michel, if this stuff in your inbox annoys you so much, then why don't you just unsubscribe from the lists? The unsubscribe link works wonders, unless of course we're talking about emails from a certain bald man whose initials are TK and uses Lyris to manage his lists... his lists are nearly impossible to get taken off of.

    Also, one thing that would help posts like this a LOT (and create controversy, which would then get you even more subscribers) would be to... *gasp* name names. Most of these kinds of posts are so vague as to what you're really referring to, I'm not sure where the real argument lies.

    Because you're definitely anti-copy-cat (which is good)... but you also seem like you're anti-launch (which is bad, because it's a great way to kick off a new product as you and your friends well know)

    And if those launch emails are bad, shame on the product creator for supplying their affiliates with crappy copy and DOUBLE-shame on the person who was so lazy they didn't even bother to read it before copy/pasting it to their list.

    So the real question is... why would you want to be on someone's list who does that? If your inbox really does get flooded, then I can only assume you're on those lists for market spy intelligence gathering.

    It's funny to see people grumbling about the incest of the so-called "internet marketing niche" - they say things like "everyone does this..." or "everyone does that..." - when in fact, this all-inclusive "everyone" only represents a teeny tiny small fraction of the real "internet marketing" market. Believe it or not, there are millions and millions who have no idea who John Reese is, or who Frank Kern is, and never will. Sadly, the same goes for true greats like Halbert, Carlton, and Kennedy.
  • @Paul - Paul, I edited out the names because I want to refrain from fingerpointing anyone. Let's stick with bad behaviors and practices, not people. (Thanks for posting, though. I appreciate you.)
  • I don't think it's anything more than testosterone poisoning: "My launch is bigger than your launch."

    I say this as a self-proclaimed MCP.

    It will blow over very soon. This industry isn't politically protected, and when consumers have had enough, it's lights out for everyone in the "home run" business. Meanwhile, those of smacking solid singles and doubles will be in a great position to scoop up all the new clients.
  • As soon as an email pops into my box with the opening line "I just got off the phone to my good buddy (insert name of guru here) and..." my next move is a subscription cancellation.

    And the headache is compounded when a new seller of good unique content comes onto the scene. You buy their product, which is great but then...

    They start to hammer you with all the other blokes stuff now that you are on their list. So in my view they have just devalued themselves and me by demeaning the relationship.

    I tend to start feeling used at this point, and treat all communications from the new guy with suspicion, and am less inclined to buy anything else he may have to sell even if it is uniquely his. A lose-lose situation.

    Anyone else feel like this or am I unique?

    Be awesome
    Rick
  • I think some people jump on the product launch bandwagon because they can generally earn more affiliate commissions promoting a product being launched than a product not being launched. But that's just my guess, I don't know for sure.

    I've never been very good at following the crowd, which is why I like to promote things I REALLY personally like... or are valuable yet undiscovered.

    Ryan

    P.S. I was pleasantly surprised to see "myriad" correctly used in a sentence. Not many people can do that, you know. :-)
  • @Greg Thompson -
    Michel, if this stuff in your inbox annoys you so much, then why don’t you just unsubscribe from the lists?


    Greg, I appreciate your comment. But a couple of things to keep in mind...

    1. I unsubscribe from lists all the time. But I also subscribe to new lists all the time, too. (I'll come back to this...)

    2. I am not anti-launch at all. As I said on Twitter this morning, "I'm not 100% against affiliates promoting product launches. I'm just miffed there's nothing else to compensate. No signal, much noise." See http://twitter.com/michelfortin/status/1796931577

    3. Name names? No. Three reasons...

    a) I want to refrain from fingerpointing anyone. I want to focus on bad behaviors and practices, not people. Besides, my rants won't change these folks. They're meant to make readers who are contemplating these tactics to think.

    b) When naming names, it reduces my rant to a whine or complaint with no basis or merit. I'd rather rant about what irks me, and by the same token offer an alternate solution to counter it -- like my wife does in her Sins report.

    c) By naming names, I'm pigeonholing specific marketers (when many of them are not alone). The problem with this as well, is, readers will see, "Hey he talked about [X], but my guru is [Y], so I guess what guru [Y] is acceptable" (when it's not).

    4. You said...

    I can only assume you’re on those lists for market spy intelligence gathering.


    True. Somewhat. I'm not intelligence gathering per se. I do learn and watch what they do. They're not all that bad (or more specifically, not everything they do is that bad). But, many of these marketers, who are friends and/or people I respect, cater to my clients/customers, too. So I need to keep abreast of what my own subscribers, clients, and affiliates are learning, doing, or, even moreso, hating and complaining about.

    5. You're absolutely right about the IM industry only tapping a small fraction of the actual interwebs. But... some of these guys have huge reaches/lists (evidenced by their plethora of affiliates promoting for them, to their own lists). They, their lists and/or their affiliate may have a much larger reach than you think.

    Hence the natural tendency of people to say, "everybody does it."

    It might not be real from a statistical standpoint, but it's REAL TO THEM. And if they feel everyone is doing it, and they're grumbling, then it doesn't mean they should be easily discounted simply because they seem to be exaggerating.

    Plus, if they do say it (and I'm not talking about one or two people, too), then it must mean something, doesn't it?

    I think so.
  • Hi Michel

    I find myself totally agreeing with you yet again....

    I strive to be different in my businesses, and it does take a lot of work. Like yourself, I also don't hawk other peoples products to my lists every other day just because it's out there with the carrot of big commissions.

    Also thanks for linking to Paddi Lund. I had never heard of him before. I'm in Brisbane like Paddi and after reading about him via his website, love what he's done with his business.

    Aaron
  • @Ryan Healy - Oh, but you're right on, Ryan. They do so BECAUSE everyone else is doing it. It's social proof on several fronts -- proof that the thing is selling, and proof on the customer's side, seeing how everyone is promoting, so "it must be good."

    This is what I meant by "blame it on the economy." People are hurting right now, and so this is low-hanging-fruit stuff. But, by doing so, they are also placing a needless ceiling on their business and profit potential.

    That's just my 3 cents.

    P.S.: I do know myriad words, you know. ;)
  • Excellent post Michel, I don't know of anyone who could've said it better.
  • OH how I love your posts! On a serious note, I'm wondering if there is some consumer conditioning going on in the promotions of the past few years. People are conditioned to buy from only one type of sales pitch. (was gonna name names but deleted them out of self preservation)

    I grit my teeth and promote only those programs I have researched and know to be the best, but see "the machine" in action promoting dry cows and pulling in my subscribers.

    I feel sad for them. But then wonder what I did wrong. I guess I should have been more aggressive and smart in my recommendation of quality.... or perhaps people are willing to spend on an illusion.

    No, the new marketers are in a fear based feeding frenzy and I have not helped those who trust me. I have not shouted out common sense ( like you have Michel) Perhaps the time of quiet reasoning is over.
  • Name names.

    These namby pamby so-called rants that don't actually name the perpetrators (to be honest there's only about ten of them in the world at any given time) really don't move the game forward.

    People are busy stealing cars and mugging people and you don't want to name names.

    Otherwise I totally agree with you.

    It's loathsome. This week's launch was basically Gary Halbert's ten second point - "Make a an offer they can't refuse" dressed up in a bunch of tedious and interminable videos.
  • I see as in the song from Pink Floyd, strains of "quiet desperation" ... well ok not so quiet... in the mega-launches that are on the market right now. I read through the flood of emails that are in my "opt in for guru pitch" anonymous yahoo account, every couple of days -- and it's a bit embarrassing to see the mawkish, amateur-grade sales pitches being hawked by supposedly top marketers.

    Is 99% of it overpriced rehashed newbie-level stuff that adds zero value, but has fancy graphics and salesletters (but still, lame videos), promoting it? Yep.

    Is there a *lesson* to be learned? Yep. As Michel so astutely points out, don't duplicate, DIFFERENTIATE. (for example I'm the only trading trainer in the entire world I know of, who actually trades, *and* posts actual screencaps of my real trades and tax results and the rest of it, vs a bunch of "pig in dress" overpriced info products and robots and software in that niche done by amateur marketers who aren't even real authentic traders. It counts.).

    So this is a great article, to follow up on the last one regarding credibility -- something I've long been urging people to demand from vendors/gurus. For example, Michel is superbly qualified to teach and train about copywriting because he's one of the world's top 2-3 copywriters (and marketers)... with proven successful controls under his belt. So when he talks, I listen. But I don't buy copywriting products from people who don't have successful proven work in that arena.

    Why would anyone buy internet marketing launch products from gurus who haven't done anything outside of the "incestuous cannibal" IM community? Unless you just want to work that niche, it's best to learn from those with LATERAL proven success in other niches, to demonstrate it works and is replicable elsewhere.

    Anyways, I hope these well-spoken posts by Michel (and the great ones by Sylvie, too - what a world class team, eh?) are taken to heart by all of you -- because that's the ONLY way to survive in a down economy -- is by being authentic, credible, and adding new practical value to people without rehashing all the other stuff. Because like Ogilvy said "the customer is not a moron" and we have keen bs-detectors. It takes a lot to get me to spend a buck, and even moreso for the general public.

    to profits,

    -k
  • @Ken Calhoun - Thanks, Ken.

    As an aside, Len, we LOVE your trading training program. Fantastic. And brilliant, too. We're learning so much... and Sylvie is absolutely ecstatic at what she's learned from you. Thanks a million.
  • Yes an equally good point Ryan.

    The sheer momentum of the mega-launch.

    It's a valuable tool for those yet to be desensitized by it -- again -- keeping it profitable.

    Here's another key strategy though that I do see people like Reese use that does make things a bit better.

    One of his Million Dollar Secrets I'm sure, is this...

    If you're going to participate in the launch -- can't you at least write your own 'personalized' email versus the one that everyone else is using.

    It just seems so freakin' lazy.

    Even when I promote events that i'll be speaking at I write my own emails for it -- give it my own endorsement.

    The other issue is the I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine.

    On and on.

    But again...

    Who do you like? -- let's honor them for honoring us.

    Jimmy D Brown is another one of the "good guys."

    Shaune

    PS: This idea of momentum is actyually one of the new principles I'm teaching as a copywriting coach. Simply looking for a "sequence of events" that can be laid out in "an escalation of power" in your copy. Very cool I say.

    <a href="http://www.newcopysecrets.com"<copywriting coach</a<
  • @Ricky Breslin - Thanks, Ricky. Means a lot, coming from you.
  • Hi Ken...

    Earlier you said...

    The ONLY way to survive in a down economy?—?is by being authentic, credible, and adding new practical value to people without rehashing all the other stuff.

    I was speaking to Alan Forrest Smith (Orange Beetle dude) just two days ago and when I mentioned adding value he said -- that's not enough -- it boils down to the purity of one word.

    INTEGRITY

    In the pure sense of the word.

    Well said Alan.

    -- Shaune
  • LB
    I've seen both sides of the fence and appreciate both.

    On one hand, I think marketers complain too much about marketing! (see: http://bunkfree.com/marketing/marketers-mad-abo... )

    At the same time, I don't think Michel is just ranting here, I feel there is substance behind what he is saying and more importantly, he "walks the walk".

    There's nothing wrong with following the herd some times, but some times they are headed for a cliff.

    The important thing is knowing the difference.
  • Hey Michel, I got fed up, too.
    There were at least 3 major mega-launches happening this week. So I started unsubscribing from all the JV partners' mail lists.

    I know that you don't like mentioning names, but it might be helpful to some marketers if you pointed out the BS and repeated BS in some of the marketers' launches. There's one guy who is highly respected because he's made so much money. But he still uses several sins in his campaigns.

    Thanks for the rant.
  • That NEEDED to be said and you said it well. Very. Well.

    Don't know how I missed following you since I TwitterdUp a coupla weeks ago, but I'm fixing that right now.
  • Well said Michel.

    I know a few of the affiliates promoting one of the latest launches personally. Not well, but we've met and had a drink or two.

    For them, I cut them some slack, mainly because they don't typically send me a lot of these offers. I didn't buy anything this recently either. The ones I don't know get deleted immediately.

    I'm working on the unsubscribe action daily at this point. I don't need the noise in my in-box.

    I especially appreciate the way you expose the action without resorting to name-calling. It's not necessary to do that in order to point out the negative aspect of the "buy it from me instead of the other guys" mentality.

    Thanks again for your timely and lucid comments.
  • I'm not sure what a "Square Roxanne" has to do with anything, but I know this-- the world is full of shady people, and for every shady person are ten naive people willing to buy into their line.

    Nice to see someone standing up for people not shrewd enough to identify BS when they see it.

    Interesting that you should mention the autofollow... I don't know what on earth happened, but just this week I started getting followed by a tonne of people who I'm sure were just looking for a follow-back.

    Recently a potential client said to us, "wow, thanks for that information, this is just the kind of transparency we want/need!" This was in response to a tech support email essentially saying, "What we do isn't magic." Secret clubs of information are for the birds. Sharing information is where it's at. Mega-launches of secret clubs... the worst of the worst. ;)
  • lockwood
    @Larry - OK, but if nobody promotes a product, how are potential customers going to find out about it? That is supposed to be the point of having affiliates,that they can reach people who would not otherwise see your message.

    I'm curious what the alternative would be. Release a product, but don't try to get anyone to promote it? Limit yourself to your own list or advertising?
  • As usual Michel you grabbed the bull the horns (I was going so say something else, but you did ask to keep it G-Rated).

    I don’t remember where now, but about a year a go I commented that this whole mega launch was becoming ridicules, and questioned how long it could be kept up. I have been surprised they just keep coming. Talk about dumping on your customers. How do you feel about paying for something that then becomes a bonus for the next big launch.

    I have been unsubscribing from a number of prominent IMs. I don't need to see any more “just got off the phone with my good buddy" emails.

    Come them coming Michel.

    John Deck
  • Great post Michel, and as usual it always attracts very solid and responsible comment from your readers which is as worthwhile a read as your original post.

    Actually, the thing that peaved me off after all the pre-lauch antics was a video featuring the gurus involved where they shamelessly spoke of numerous tactical upsells, downsells, sideways-sells, etc,. it was so sickening I just shut the video down cold. I agree with the whole gambling analogy,- it's kind of like when you click "order" you then go through a series of "oh,..congratulations,- you've won,..now would you like to double your money?"

    Cheers Michel, keep up the vigilance,- I love it!

    Russell
  • Doctor Success has prescribed the best antidote for all the overwhelmed marketers once again. Service your customers and strive for uniqueness. That's the remedy I recommend also. With a simple twist of imagination, there's a multitude of past strategic marketing techniques that can be implemented today.

    Thanks for your input Michel,

    Lonnie
  • Michael

    Congratulations...it had to be said and you said it. Truth be known if you asked 100 people if they were happy with products they have been email flogged to buy, at least 90 of them would tell you that they were not happy with 99% of the products or the 'supposed customer service level'.

    I believe you hit the nail on the head with your blog post title and because of this so many marketers risk losing not just their customers but also their credibility. I have unsubscribed from most of the 'gurus' and other marketers lists for precisely the reason that I have been constantly left with the feeling that I am not perceived as a customer, but rather as a 'cash cow'.

    To you and Sylvie....keep it all coming..we need more guys like you on our side!!

    Celebrate Life
    Lorrette
  • Thanks for an excellent post. I whole heartily agree with you and am fearing the day when "Internet marketer" is put in the same basked as "used car salesman" and "time-sharing seller".
  • Hi all
    Interesting read and I would echo many of the sentiments. Chris Rempel in his blog made an a good point yesterday - hope Chris doesn't mind me quoting him?

    "It will come with time, but to accurately determine TRUTH in this industry, you’ve got to do two things:

    1. Ignore information from marketers that are in line with an agenda (ie. pre-launch “content”)

    2. Ignore the “Can’t-Do-Its”, naysayers and whiners in general, because 99% of the time their results are anything but accurate or conclusive.

    As you spend time in this industry, you’ll begin to see this."

    Reading the comments here and Chris's blog is reassuring as the 'Club' emails pile up - I think they'll be a backlash!

    Pete from Canberra
  • I had the same impression when I first started circling around the internet marketing idea a few years back. It was quickly obvious that 90% of the products you could buy, and then sell as an affiliate, were simply refinements to one particular sales model - squeeze page marketing. All the big names were endlessly promoting each other, and nothing has changed in the meantime, except they have all been busy implementing each other's improvements to the model.

    It's clear that people are attracted to the model and the affiliate world because of it's promise of easy money - "no product, experience, website or customers required, start right now!!" Like all bubbles, it will burst, but those who are actually in the business of creating and selling substantial, valuable solutions to people's problems will still be here, and if we learn something along the way we'll be doing better too.

    Occasionally I have come across something that was actually useful for me in building and improving my own business (thank you Michel), and I continue to follow because you continue to offer knowledge, thoughtful discussions, ideas. Many other lists started that way and quickly turned into a stream of "highly recommended opportunities".

    So thank you for the post, and for being one worth emulating.
  • So true. Surprise shock-and-awe can only last for so long. Nothing beats a long-term and solid plan.
  • Michel,

    I see your point and there is definitely persuasive strength for SOME people in the repetition of the message but I see this strategy being purpetrated on the "sheeple" more and more, not just in the IM niche.
    it feeds an inner insecurity
    I dont have the answer or a quick solution but
    I made a quick video where I add my comments over at

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sub9q1UlPaI

    thank you Michel
    p.s i admire your public struggle and resolve to quit smoking how has that been going? are you over it?
    thanks and take care
    Bryan Bliss
  • @Bryan Bliss - Excellent Bryan! Thank you so much for going out of your way to do this. Great points, too.

    Bryan, are you on Twitter? I'd love to follow you. Also, I may want to add your video as an update to my blog post. Is that OK with you?
  • @Michel Fortin -
    Thanks Michel
    I'd be honored for you to feel free to use the video any way you wish.

    My twitter name is
    http://twitter.com/blissfulfun
    Bry
  • Just added an update to my post (scroll down to the end) and you'll also see the video Bryan Bliss did.
  • James
    Fair and True Michael.
    I think you need to put yourself in these young entrepreneurs shoes first however.
    What we all need to realize is that most people do want that unique product or service to offer. The problem is the online market is extensively saturated. One would be hard pressed to find that perfectly unique product. The whole reasoning to "going with the flow" is that there is not a lot of other options. A new product/idea is expensive, and quite possibly not going to respond positively in the marketplace the way a proven product/idea already has.
    In essence, we all want to divert from the mass produced products but at times you go with the flow and do your best to "bedazzle" in your own unique way with the product you have.
    And you do so to mitigate the risk a new venture presents not to be a "follower" of large masses.
  • Michel

    How wonderful to read what I have been thinking myself recently.

    I have only been involved in the IM world for less than a year, but already I am fed up with this level of launch using the same old emails etc.

    I have made a conscious decision NOT to buy anything launched in this way (it will probably be given away in a different format later on anyway).

    I have been considering affiliate marketing, but one thing that has put me off has been finding a product of a quality that I am happy with and feel happy to promote. In the meantime I am preparing my own product and have been doing lots of research for it.

    Surely any product we produce should be to help someone else with a problem or query they have. They do not have the time to do all the research themselves and will pay to have that done for them. I will make sure that anything I put my name to meets my standards even if it means that I earn less than I could do. I wish to keep my integrity intact.

    Anyway thanks for this post - I really appreciate it. I missed the debate on Twitter though so I'll follow it through.

    Thanks

    Hilay
  • David Birley
    Awesome post Michel...

    I just realized you posted something about Paddi Lund as well... I have a few of his books - they made my clinic business more than an extra $20,000 a year.

    Easily.

    His stuff is brilliant (especially for clinic businesses!)

    I didn't quite go as far as taking a chainsaw to my front desk though!!!

    Cheers

    Dave
  • Thanks, Michel re the trading kudos, I appreciate it. And for a great column as usual. I miss the days when there was high-quality content out there (like Terry Dean's, comes to mind, or Jimmy Brown or others), where there was good old-fashioned solid content at less-than-$1000 bucks a pop price points, from credible guys whose stuff really worked.

    Especially in this economy -- things have changed. There's fatigue from the IM crowd for "yet another guru launch", and likely shock from the new folks to internet marketing when they see thousand-dollar price points. Or frustration when they see the forced continuity models, thinking "oh geez not another monthly bill I can't afford - I've got kids to feed!"....and the "dangling a tantalizing bit of underpriced content in front of me, but only if I let them whack my credit card, and they don't take paypal so of course I won't trust them by blindly entering my credit card into their website, of a total stranger", resistance to overcome.

    It'll be interesting to see how things evolve.... as always, establishing a business, vs just grabbing sales, and developing long term trust and credibility will be the keys for those who survive... and the transparent no-credibility marketers will lose their longevity, and affiliates will abandon them when they see the high refund rates from overpriced "stuff" that doesn't add genuine value. If it's valuable, which is exceptionally rare, then paying up is worth it... but that's less than 0.5% of what's on the market, and it's hard, but rewarding, to find the gems.

    -k
  • This post should be SENT to every one of the marketing gurus who launch, relaunch, and relaunch again, then promote every other guru's launch, relaunch, and secret club. This needed to be said, and Michel, you said it well. You GO MAN!
  • well said, people respond better to marketing if they don't perceive it as something of a spam. if they find that the premium is servicing them, they will start to build a relationship with you.
  • Here are some more thoughts which came up when reading Michel’s article:
    Hi Michel, I fully agree with you and your article. Thanks a lot. for your critics on internetmarketers behaviour. A good corporate identity does not only need a good design and service, it also needs fair and serious behavior, respecting your opposit prospect and customer. Sometimes as a prospect or customer you really get the feeling you must be stupid and uneducated and cannot think by yourself. We believe everything, especially all the hype.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    You talked about UNIQUE content.

    What about an affordable training to teach newbies and new affiliates how to be unique from the very beginning? Or recommend an ebook, video or course regarding this subject or even give it away for free.

    I’m trying to convince my contacts, not to work for others any more, but for themselves.
    www.dysak.biz/webservice/mlmpromotion
    I used MLM as an example.

    Look at all the video tutorials talking about registering a domain. O yes that is so easy, and beginners are wasting their money on domains, which later are useless, because nobody tells them how to search for the best domainname for their business. Why not recommend or give away more information together with a video on how to register a domain. I did not know either, when I started. I did not know how important it is, to build your own name, your own authority. But instinctively I used my own name for my first domain. I did not have any niche at that time, I did not have any businessplan, I just had some ideas, which I tried and never succeeded, because I knew just nothing.
    You can read all kind of books, how should you know which are worth to follow their instructions. You do not know, before you bought them and even then you do not know as a beginner.
    Can you trust the reviews? Can you trust testimonials?

    Who can tell the beginners, how they should proceed to avoid wasting money for products which are not worth the webspace they need.

    Why do the merchants write salescopies, which are about 1 to 2 meters long, and at least repeat 3 times the same content in other words. Who has the time to read this salescopies? I just hate them and am looking for the price first. If I cannot afford it, I do not read it at all. If I can afford I read the benefits, the features and 2 or 3 testimonials. All the rest is just wasted time.

    If somebody wrote a book, he should be able to write a salesletter too. Who but himself knows his product the best? So a short, precise salespage should convince more then those terribly long stories about of course "no hype". I think, the money-back-guarantee makes it very simple to keep salesletters short.

    Where will all the bonusoffers end up, if we do not start stopping this nonsense. Let’s put in 2 or 3 really valuable products and that’s it.

    Don’t you think that honesty does not need 2 or 3 pages of salescopy?
    Tell the customers what the product is about, its features and benefits and then let your customers build their own opinion by trying it. And if it is a personal service you offer, have first a free of charge discussion with your customer to find out, what exactly he wants and then offer partial payment. One after ordering, one after submitting the draft and the rest, when your customer is satisfied with your service and the results.

    I think a lot of gurus need to listen to the demand of their customers more then reading and publishing their testimonials.

    Let’s try to get much more constructive critics from those, who are not satisfied with the handling of internet marketing.

    And please stop overwhelming your prospects and customers with articles and offers. I guess most of them are just highlighting and deleting their mails. One information and one offer per week are really enough, especially when you think about the hordes you are subscribed with. 10 times/day the same offer from hundred lists is just too much. I stopped reading my mails. So sometimes I am missing real good information, but I cannot help it. Cannot spend 4 hours a day to find out, which mails are worth reading them. So bye bye to most of them.

    So now I wrote enough about all the wasted time for internet marketing.
    Let’s come back to the really important things, keep your prospects and customers happy and deliver them little but very valuable content.
    Let people the time to earn money to be able to buy from you.

    All the best and big success to all of you
    Renate Schedl from DY$AK MyBestMarket

    PS: If I am using the YOU all the time I do not mean you as Michel, but a person in generell.
    Michel, I copied your article into my blog together with my own thoughts.
    http://www.renate-schedl.com/earn-money/recomme...
  • Let me comment on “the why” they do it.

    It’s simple…

    Fear and profitability.

    Here’s the dirty little secret…

    These guys know that the launch is coming and they know people on their list will be buying.

    They want to ‘max out’ the list that they have heavily invested in building.

    So out of fear?—?they try to ‘grab the sale.’

    No question?—?THAT is bad business and in my opinion, even worse character.

    But…

    It has been and is still profitable to do.

    Michel’s definition of Sheeple is excellent.

    That’s why it’s still working although…

    It is changing because we are all getting tired of it but “the we” that is getting tired of it are a bit more savvy.

    Dirty little secret number 2…

    The bigger market are still new and not as desensitized to it as we?—?the few?—?are.

    But…

    In order for it to stop?—?it has to become unprofitable to do it.

    The fear has to be “loss of sales” by doing it.

    Now…

    Those that are becoming ‘done in’ by it is growing and the shift in the economy is forcing people to become more discerning?—?As my earlier post stated?—?we do need to change, adapt and differentiate but…

    these ole boys will play their games so long as it’s profitable.

    That’s from “their side”?—?of course from our side we can simply buy from those that treat us with respect as Michel and Sylvie do and as my friend Terry Dean does.

    So…

    Lets not rant about the bad guys?—?let’s rant about those that are doing it well?—?let’s spread that word and help make it unprofitable to be so disrespectful.

    Who else is doing business out of integrity instead of fear?

    Shaune Clarke
  • @Shaune Clarke - Shaune, I had to repost your comment after accidentally deleting it. FYI.
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