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How to Get More Comments, Less Spam

How to Get More Comments, Less Spam

Blog traffic lightI’ve done a cou­ple of things to my blog, mostly “behind the scenes,” that I want to share with you.

Some well-​​known mar­keters have closed their com­ments on their blogs. The pri­mary and most impor­tant rea­son is to deal with the plethora of com­ment spam. If you wanted to com­ment on any of their posts, you’d have to do it on your own blog by post­ing an arti­cle and link­ing back to it.

Since most blogs sup­port it, your link will auto­mat­i­cally cre­ate a track­back on the post, which will be listed in the com­ments area. But the won­der­ful byprod­uct of this is that it increases back­links (i.e., link pop­u­lar­ity) to their blogs.

Some peo­ple have said this to be dis­hon­est, which befud­dles me. I get over 10,000 spam com­ments a week on this blog — thank good­ness for the Akismet plu­gin! — so I under­stand James’ rea­son­ing, espe­cially in light of the fact that he val­ues his time deeply.

(Some­thing I, and you too, need to do.)

How­ever, I love the com­ments area. Blog com­ments helps me to gather feed­back, often­times when I’m look­ing for answers, ideas or insights that are helpful.

But I also did a bit of research and dis­cov­ered that 94% of the spam occurs on my older posts. That’s why I’ve decided to do some­thing similar.

Com­ment Time­out is a plu­gin that does a vari­ety of com­ment mod­er­a­tion tasks. For exam­ple, it auto­mat­i­cally rejects posts with too many links or spam-​​like cod­ing within them.

But the most impor­tant fea­ture is the fact that it can auto­mat­i­cally close your com­ments after a spec­i­fied period of time.

(I’ve set mine to 120 days. Posts older than 120 days are auto­mat­i­cally closed. But it will keep posts with recent com­ments open, namely posts with com­ments made within the last 60 days.)

If I wish to get feed­back, I’ll sim­ply post a new blog entry. Track­backs and ping­backs are always on, and will be listed in the com­ments area. So if you wish to com­ment on an older post, sim­ply post a new arti­cle on your blog and link back to it.

For those who don’t have a blog, there are many poll or sur­vey tools out there, such as Wufoo​.com or dPolls​.com.

But to encour­age com­ments on cur­rent posts, and as a result of apply­ing the plu­gin above, I’ve decided to acti­vate another plugin.

With the Word­Press default pack­age, links within com­ments apply a “no-​​follow” attri­bu­tion, which was ini­tially meant to curb spam. (Many spam­mers have exploited this in the past, for the sole pur­pose of gain­ing linkback pop­u­lar­ity and pager­ank when search engines index blogs.)

As we now know, this is not true. At least, not any longer.

Spam is almost always auto­mated (spam­mers often use soft­ware that “blasts” blog com­ments all over the web). And they don’t care. Because, if spam­mers can get blog view­ers and authors to visit their sites, gain­ing extra back­links is but a mere bonus for their despi­ca­ble efforts.

The prob­lem is, just like email anti-​​spam fil­ter­ing can kill inno­cent bystanders (such as legit­i­mate mar­keters), no-​​follow penal­izes my blog’s com­men­ta­tors in the process.

After twist­ing my vir­tual arm for a while, Andy Beard who has been evan­ge­liz­ing the ben­e­fits of do-​​follow for some time has finally con­vinced me.

But rather than being forced to tweak the code, my friend Denis de Bernardy, author of the Semi­o­logic Pack­age of plu­g­ins, which I highly rec­om­mend, offers a Do Fol­low plu­gin that reverses the default no-​​follow attribution.

So now, when you com­ment, your link will get the ben­e­fit of the back­link.

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  • I love what you wrote. This helps me alot as I am trying to figure out the best way to establish my blog. I want it to be my main home page with links to other pages within the site. Does anyone have anything to say about this. Also, you can check out my blog and recent trip to the Philippines by going to http://www.natebunger.typepad.com
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  • Sid
    Michel,

    This is an excellent article. I've been wondering how to do some of the things you mentioned here, especially protecting from spam AND using the do follow.

    I've heard from an SEO expert friend that you still get a least one backlink from a post to a blog, even with the no follow. My understanding is that Google will follow the link used in your name if you specify a website. Of course you lose the benefit of using anchor text in the body of the message, but it's still a link.

    Thanks again. I'm going to copy your article and post it on my web site (a Joomla site). Unfortunately, Joomla doesn't yet support trackback, but I'll still link to this post.

    Sid
  • Indeed!

    Michel my friend! How very kind of you to think of your commentors.

    The "nofollow" attribute is really a crutch that no one should think is capable of stopping the comment spam. After all, there are THREE major search engines out there, and all of them pay attention to backlinks. Yahoo and MSN IGNORE the nofollow tag (at least they did the last time I ran a stats analysis on linking). So those links still count for ranking in Yahoo and MSN.

    Trackbacks and do-follow are good for everyone. Just make sure to keep an eye on your comments... as linking out to bad stuff can be bad for your rankings.

    See you soon my friend!

    -Nathan Anderson

    PS... think I'll zap ya a link from my blog too... ;)
  • Hey Nate! Good points. (How's Trish and the baby? Sylvie says "Hi!")
  • Thanks for leading the way. I'm going to follow your lead and I appreciate the advice.

    Another reason we run "several" of our 20 blogs with Semiologic ... per your recommendation, which was spot on .. as usual.
  • I disable the comments on my blog.

    I've noticed when you allow comments you get all kinds of entries from pure whackos.

    I've even seen comments from some mad Aussie copywriter!

    "a Do Follow plugin that reverses the default no-follow standard attribution."

    Yeh I was gonna say that!!

    Kindest regards,
    Andrew Cavanagh
  • Trish is great. The baby is getting positively fluffy... she's very round! I'll pass on the "hey" to the wife. Tell Sylvie to keep disparando la luz fantástica!
  • What's wrong with a good old fashioned Captcha tied in with the submission?

    Captchas work very well. Admittedly some are unfriendly and very poorly implemented, but there are a lot of good ones, including Flash types.
  • There are various approaches. I know sites that retain nofollow for comments, but provide followable links for trackback.

    The majority of the spam on my blog is actually trackback spam, but spam karma actually catches that very easily.

    I think the only spam that does get through on my blog is manual spam that has picked up a specific keyword, but doesn't refer to the content of the post. I just spanked one that picked up on "the l-w of Att-------" on one of my posts. I just "spanked" it.
  • Hi Michel,
    Since I've set up my blog, I've always used Askimet and do follow. This does help with linking.
  • Thanks Michel - I am also suffering a massive deluge of comment spam on my Wordpress blog, and like you it is coming mostly on posts beyond 120-days.

    Anything that will give control back to "legitimate" comment posters is a huge plus in my books.

    Jeff
  • By the way Michel - knowing you are the utlimate tester, have you had the chance to test James' Glyphius copywriting software - in terms of understanding real impact on conversion rates?

    Thanx,

    Jeff
  • Hello Michel,

    Thank you for explaining all this. It is a great help to those of us who are
    new to blogging. I am amazed by the number of plugins out
    there. Of course, I can not even imagine getting 10,000 spam comments.

    Keep up the great work.

    Kind regards,
    Siriol Jameson
  • I just found this is my logs, that means someone was using it with my site. And I went to look at it, it's pretty cool stuff. It's for SEO tools and tracking:

    http://www.linkvendor.com/
  • I haven't had any comment spam for almost a year ever since I used a captcha-type plugin. But it entails tweaking code, something some people don't really relish doing if they're not familiar with how it works.

    Thanks for the plug on the comment timeout plugin. Sounds nifty, so I'll give it a try. :)
  • Here's an interesting article that just came out:

    http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/02/time-to...
  • Lucid and clear explanation. Still, are you going to start accumulating spurious, meaningless comments from other blogs? You know, much like this one?

    TC
  • Tom, if you consider *your* comments as spurious and meaningless, then I certainly want more of them.
  • I have my comment settings to await my approval first,but 10,000 spam comments is a bit much!

    I'd like to know how one builds up to the point of recieving so many comments--preferrably GENUINE comments?
  • Thanks for the nice words, Michel.

    I just wonder if the high ranking blogs (such as this) won't suffer an epidemic of one-word "exactly!" style answers from those seeking nothing more than the link love.

    I guess we'll see. In any case, disabled nofollow on my blog. The future awaits.
  • Well, there are plugins to prevent that. One of them checks referring IPs (since spammers who use single words or short sentences, like "nice site!" are software with no referring IP). And it does a few more things, too, like trackbacks, etc.

    And there's another plugin (can't remember where or the name) that forces the post to be a minimum number of characters. So you can set a comment to be, oh, at least 50 characters, or it will give the user an error message and say "post more content!" Etc.

    Hmmm, I'll try to find it.
  • The "minimum character" plugin sounds interesting. Akismet and Bad Behavior do a pretty good job on the spam front, so that aspect of the "nofollow" discussion simply hasn't been a concern.
  • Nice topic...
    Well my domain is 1 month older...
    I can expect comments after 3 or 4 months..:)
    www.elechub.com
  • I've been reading a few blog posts this evening about removing the nofollow attribute from comment links and agree that legitimate visitors to a blog should be rewarded with a valid backlink to their website. Hopefully this will help attract more visitors into contributing to the blog community. For this reason I've decided to remove the nofollow attribute from the comments on my blog. It gets a bit of traffic but no many comments (maybe my posts need a bit of work, who knows)

    On several of the posts I've been reading I've wanted to post a comment in response as I had something of value to add but as the timeout had expired I was unable to, which I felt was unfair. So in this respect I don't agree with the timeout argument.
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