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Blame The Copywriter, Not The Copy

Blame The Copywriter, Not The Copy

Let's deal!Lately, I’m see­ing a lot of posts in pub­lic forums and blogs these days about peo­ple get­ting sick and tired of see­ing “crappy,” “hypey,” used-​​car, Ginsu-​​like, looooong copy.

Some of them come from guru-​​bashing naysay­ers who hate mar­ket­ing, which I always take with a grain of salt.

But some are intel­li­gent, mature, and com­mon­sen­si­cal. They are inter­est­ing because I believe that, while neg­a­tive feed­back does have its place, it’s often misplaced.

Here’s why. They blame long copy when all too often it’s not the copy’s fault. More impor­tantly, it’s not because of the length. Let’s get some­thing clear off the bat: long, Ginsu-​​like copy does work. It has always worked. It will always work. And it’s here to stay.

But (and it’s a big “but”)…

Peo­ple object to them not because of what they say but how they say it. Take a look at the web. Noticed how it’s being used right now by many wannabe copy­writ­ers or naive mar­keters? Tons. They are the cul­prits — not the process.

(Actu­ally, their lack of sales and writ­ing skills is the culprit.)

There’s an inter­est­ing point to make in all this.

Some peo­ple are mud­dy­ing the facts with sec­ondary objec­tions that are mis­lead­ing — although some of these objec­tions are appro­pri­ate, as some saleslet­ters are indeed too long, bor­ing and hypey. But they are con­fused with the real issue, here.

There’s a dif­fer­ence between short copy and brief copy. Between long copy and long-​​winded copy. Between pithy copy that may still be long and short copy that’s curt, leaves the reader hang­ing, and doesn’t tell enough to make the sale.

Back to The Point…

In its defense, some have used the excuse that the sale is the ulti­mate result. Noth­ing else mat­ters. And that those object­ing to “crappy” copy are not prospects, and make the error that the copy is not meant for them and there­fore they have no right to object.

Yes and no.

We can all say that “con­ver­sion is queen,” and that “some­one who objects is usu­ally not tar­geted for the offer.” In some cases, that may very well be true. But in many cases, I beg to dif­fer. And I’ll tell you why in a moment…

But I also believe that, most of the time, the obvi­ous, “hypey,” used-​​car approach used in copy has really noth­ing to do with the hype itself but every­thing to do with the fact that the owner (or the copy­writer) doesn’t know how to sell. Period.

Why do brazen, used-​​car sales­men have such a stigma, when some have shat­tered sales records sell­ing and even reselling cars over and over to the same peo­ple? Like Joe Girard, for exam­ple, the Guin­ness Record holder for sell­ing the most cars?

You see, it’s not the approach. It’s the people.

Specif­i­cally, it’s the lack of sales and per­sua­sion skills.

Hype may have a neg­a­tive con­no­ta­tion. But when used prop­erly and blended with inter­est­ing, riv­et­ing copy, as well as pow­er­ful sto­ries (I call this “sto­ry­selling”) and tar­geted to the right peo­ple, is often dis­re­garded or ignored.

In fact, when hyper­bole is used prop­erly, most read­ers will look at hype as “pas­sion,” “car­ing,” “empa­thy,” “per­son­al­ity,” “con­ver­sa­tional,” etc. Not “hype.”

When peo­ple object to crappy copy, they’re not object­ing to the fact they are using long, hypey, direct mar­ket­ing. Even though it may seem that way. They are object­ing to the poor sales­man­ship on the part of the writer or marketer.

Specif­i­cally, on their poor use of long, hypey copy — and not the pitch itself.

You see, use this approach prop­erly, and peo­ple will down­play the hype. But use it improp­erly, and you will lead peo­ple, includ­ing prospects, to see right through it and con­clude that it is indeed just a bunch of hype. And there­fore, a load of crap.

(And by exten­sion, they’ll also believe that the prod­uct and the busi­ness behind it are just as crappy. Nat­u­rally. I call this a “UPA,” or an uncon­scious par­al­leled assump­tion.)

It’s Psy­chol­ogy, Pure And Simple.

For exam­ple, some peo­ple point out copy that say things like, “to be hon­est, Ms. Prospect…” “frankly, I’m puz­zled,” or, “I’m going to be flat-​​out truth­ful with you, Mrs. Prospect, and tell you some­thing [that’s going to blow your socks off],” blah, blah, blah.

And they equate this tac­tic to be the sign of poor copy.

As you know, I used to be a sales trainer in a for­mer career. Sales train­ing says you should never to say, “to be hon­est,” “to be frank,” or “to be truth­ful with you.” Because, uncon­sciously, prospects will think you must be dis­hon­est if you need to say it.

They think, “Gee, was he dis­hon­est until now?”

Like in sales train­ing, they tell you that instead it’s best to say, “to be can­did with you,” “to be open with you,” “to be forth­right with you,” or “to be more to the point with you.”

They’ve been teach­ing this in Sales 101 for ages! :)

But that’s seman­tics. In my opin­ion, I believe you cer­tainly can say “hon­est” and so on, as long as you are not per­ceived as try­ing to “pull a fast one.”

If you are and, more impor­tantly, if you appear gen­uine, empa­thetic, and pas­sion­ate, then it becomes part of a nor­mal, nat­ural con­ver­sa­tion — not a bla­tant, hypey sales pitch, where any­thing you say makes you look incred­u­lous or suspect.

Any­way, it’s just one very small exam­ple of poor sales skills. Which trans­lates into poor copy. Which inevitably leads to these kinds of objections.

Now, to The Other Points.

Per­son­ally, I do think much of the copy on the web these days down­right suck. I’m not talk­ing about the typ­i­cal bland, pro­fes­sional, cor­po­rate­s­peak that makes you yawn. I’m refer­ring to some people’s dis­mal attempt at long, hard-​​hitting, “grab-​​their-​​money” copy.

Often, it’s under­stand­able. It’s an attempt by the mar­keter or copy­writer to “copy” the Ginsu-​​like style of hard-​​hitting copy for their own offers.

Whether they’re swip­ing or mim­ic­k­ing them, if they don’t under­stand the prin­ci­ples of good sales­man­ship, they often do it all wrong. In the end, it’s those kinds of saleslet­ters that make all long, hard-​​hitting sales copy look bad.

For exam­ple, they pack their copy with adjec­tives, superla­tives, adverbs, and carnival-​​barking, snakeoil ver­biage that makes you cringe in hor­ror with every pass­ing sentence.

You know the kind, right?

“Get my super-​​fast, heart-​​pumping, stun­ningly lightning-​​fast, jack-​​hammer-​​powered, amaz­ingly sweet, orgas­mic, googley-​​eye-​​inducing, whiz-​​bang wid­get right NOOOOOOWWWW!!!”

Some peo­ple say it insults their intelligence.

It’s not the fact that it insults prospects’ intel­li­gences. It’s the fact that, if we feel it does, it means the writer didn’t do his job, didn’t know the prod­uct well enough, and laced their copy with superla­tives because they don’t know how to write or how to sell.

I once inter­viewed my friend Gary Hal­bert, one of the best copy­writ­ers in the world before he passed away. And he said it best. To para­phrase, he said some­thing like this:

“Copy that tries to make a freakin’ explo­sion is going to turn peo­ple off and makes the pitch so unbe­liev­able sim­ply because the writer doesn’t know what the heck he/​she is doing. Period.”

Then I inter­viewed John Carl­ton, who said some­thing sim­i­lar. It all comes down to pas­sion, per­sua­sion, influ­ence, psy­chol­ogy, and the power of sto­ry­telling — oth­er­wise, it ends up with superlative-​​laden, used-​​car ver­nac­u­lar that makes you want to puke.

Bot­tom Line, It Comes Down to This…

  • Know your prod­uct.
  • Know your audi­ence.
  • Know how to sell (i.e., how to con­nect the first two).

The web has made it pos­si­ble for the pro­lif­er­a­tion of wannabes, or mar­keters who don’t know their prod­uct enough (from their prospects’ per­spec­tive, that is) who attempt to write copy that mim­ics cheesy late-​​night informercials.

Let me repeat it: the Ginsu approach does work when it is used properly.

(And in many, many, many cases, it is not.)

In that inter­view men­tioned ear­lier, John Carl­ton talked about pas­sion and sales­man­ship in copy­writ­ing. Peo­ple who use this kind of adjective-​​laden copy are sim­ply not skilled in sell­ing, and haven’t truly woken their “inner sales­per­son” to sell really well.

Usu­ally, there’s no hook, no empa­thy, no eye-​​grabbing copy, no real ben­e­fits, no rea­sons why, and above all, no story. So, since the writer didn’t do their job, they often resort to adjec­tives and adverbs sim­ply because they have noth­ing else to work with.

I could go on and on, but I am get­ting sick and tired of poor copy — par­tic­u­larly poor copy giv­ing good copy (and good copy­writ­ers) a bad name. I see this all the time, with my copy cri­tiques as well as some of the offers I come across on the web.

It’s not poor copy.

It’s Poor Selling.

Now, some­one also said that, while we can bitch and com­plain about crappy copy, it really boils down to under­stand­ing two dif­fer­ent mar­ket­ing approaches — i.e., a marketer’s choice of approach to fit short-​​term or long-​​term goals.

That is, they can choose between the get-​​your-​​money, go-​​for-​​the-​​jugular, aggres­sive direct mar­ket­ing kind, and the relationship-​​driven, good-​​customer-​​service, warm-​​fuzzy, brand­ing kind. (And thus, there’s copy that appeals to both, respec­tively to the hard-​​hitting hype, ver­sus the soft-​​selling edi­to­r­ial style.)

My take? It doesn’t have to be a choice, really.

I agree with the spirit of what they said. Since direct mar­ket­ing is so quick, direct, and mea­sur­able, it is an oppor­tu­nity for peo­ple to jump in, hit ‘em hard, and make a quick buck — and for some, run out of town. (The lat­ter is a true snakeoil salesman.)

But, I just want to point out some­thing, per­haps not to dif­fer but to clar­ify. An my point is that, while it’s true in some cases, it’s not true in all the cases.

Many direct mar­ket­ing com­pa­nies who use hard-​​hitting copy and aggres­sive sales approaches have also cre­ated strong rela­tion­ships, solid brand equity, great cus­tomer ser­vice, and pow­er­ful name recog­ni­tion for them­selves, too.

But they achieved it as a byprod­uct, not as a dis­tinct goal.

They sim­ply decided not to spend mil­lions of dol­lars on ad agen­cies to build their brands, take huge risks, or work really hard (and wait a long time) using soft-​​sell tech­niques to cre­ate the much-​​needed word of mouth.

(Why? Because brand­ing, pub­lic­ity and relationship-​​building is risky busi­ness, because it’s not account­able, jus­ti­fi­able, or as mea­sur­able as direct marketing.)

And “short-​​term” direct mar­keters, as they were referred to, who use hard-​​hitting, seem­ingly “hypey” copy are not just in it for the quick buck.

Granted, some are. And granted, some com­pa­nies have indeed taken the low-​​key approach and suc­ceeded amaz­ingly fast with­out using any hard-​​hitting copy.

But they suc­ceeded for many other rea­sons: they’ve cre­ated a highly in-​​demand prod­uct or a new prod­uct with a great twist. They’ve used niche mar­ket­ing, buzz cre­ation, viral mar­ket­ing, or guer­rilla mar­ket­ing. Or they’ve devel­oped a cult fol­low­ing, etc.

Take Google, For Instance.

They “did” it with almost no adver­tis­ing or hard-​​selling.

But just after their record-​​breaking IPO hit Wall Street, the Chief Exec of Mar­ket­ing Com­mu­ni­ca­tions — also said to be the brain­child behind Google’s mar­ket­ing suc­cess — is resign­ing over dif­fer­ences with the com­pany, who’s now look­ing into going “Madison-​​Avenue” style of million-​​dollar ad-​​agency advertising.

Now, some­thing impor­tant needs to be said…

Build­ing rela­tion­ships should be the aim of every mar­keter. But I think there’s a dis­tinc­tion between cre­at­ing rela­tion­ships as a byprod­uct of good cus­tomer ser­vice ver­sus relationship-​​only mar­ket­ing that strives to cre­ate a brand name and image.

The lat­ter is often expen­sive, time-​​consuming, and risky. Of course, it may indeed work. If the long-​​term, brand-​​focused busi­ness is lucky enough to make it work, the suc­cess shifts into cruise-​​control, and no longer requires a lot of work, time or money.

(How­ever, that suc­cess is not per­ma­nent. There are main­te­nance costs involved. Because they even­tu­ally will have to fight off com­pe­ti­tion, spend more money to keep the brand alive, pen­e­trate new mar­kets to keep rev­enues lev­eled, etc.)

As for direct mar­keters being strictly “short term,” I don’t think so.

Maybe it’s a short-​​term approach in terms of results or cam­paign efforts. And maybe it’s true in some cases. But not all direct mar­keters have the goal of stay­ing short-​​term… of mak­ing a quick sale and bail­ing out like some snakeoil salesman.

How many direct mar­keters out there have used hard-​​selling copy, and cre­ated great brands and name recog­ni­tion, and even used their con­trols — their old yet ubiq­ui­tous, hard-​​hitting ads — for years and years? Lots. Mucho lots.

Look at DAK, Ronco, Ginsu, TimeLife, as well as saleslet­ters and ads that are old and still run­ning to this day: oldies like the Charles Atlas ad, to fairly new­bies like Jeff Paul’s advertorial-​​style saleslet­ter, “Mak­ing $4,000 a day at your kitchen table in your under­wear.” (Which is still run­ning, what, for over a decade, now?)

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  • @Gail Barsky, Esquire - Gail you might be interested in one of my older blog posts:

    http://www.michelfortin.com/is-copywriting-a-ma...
  • Mike Sigers
    Michel,

    Well said. The reason we see crappy copy today is simple: Crappy Marketers !

    Unlearned, unskilled, too young, too old, too dumb, too whatever.....

    They have been enabled, by the advent of the internet, to go where they could never get to before. The forefront. In the P.I. ( Pre-Internet ) Days , they would have never been allowed to write copy for anyone. They would never have been allowed to (dis)organize a marketing/advertising campaign. They would be where they belong..on the bottom, working their way to the top. Now they can live with mommy and daddy, pay for hosting and their ISP and act like/call themselves Marketing Guru's, even though they have nothing, no product, no car, no job, no bills ( thanks to mommy ). They can post on 205 different forums about every subject, every 15 minutes offering some of the most idiotic advice ever spoken/written.

    If they had someone who loved them, that person would tell them to get a real job, learn to work with people and get the skills necessary to be an employee worth having, THEN get on the internet and be successful, instead of just posting with some idiotic drivel that had no reason to be written, EXCEPT that they wanted to show you their ignorance and their sig line !

    Speaking of which, I believe we could make forums a lot more productive if every operator would remove the sig line option. Most of the idiots would go away if they couldn't try to sell you something without actually having even attempted to help you.

    Whattaya say ? Let's do away with 'em for 6 months and see if it improves the quality of advice given.
  • I really don't care what people say as long as the copy WORKS!

    Michel, you remain king in my book.

    Frank
  • This is a great point... A lot of copy is so cliche that it drives me nuts... I normally avoid long copy but there are times when I am hooked and will read it all, which means it is good copy. I never really noticed this until this post. Thanks Michael.

    Your post has me kind of scared though. I have studied a lot of your techniques and loved your Power Positioning Dot Com book. I spent several weeks writing my first attempt at adcopy to promote a novel centered around the death of John Lennon. I really hope it doesn't turn out to be bad copy.

    I would post the URL but not sure if that is appropriate here. So if you or any of your subscribers would like to give me a critic please contact me and I will send you the URL.

    Thanks
    Eric Bonnici
  • Will do that soon. Thanks Mike.

    Eric
  • Dear Mr. Copywriters,

    Who's better? Men or Women at writing copy?

    Alexandra
  • Well said and enlightening. It goes well with what we talked about on our call today -- about making your copy work for you instead of trying to build a relationship one-on-one.

    I just wanted to know where I can buy this:

    "Get my super-fast, heart-pumping, stunningly lightning-fast, jack-hammer-powered, amazingly sweet, orgasmic, googley-eye-inducing, whiz-bang widget right NOOOOOOWWWW!!!"

    ;)
  • Excellent article as usual, Michel.

    It comes down to inexperienced marketers copying each other, or trying to rip off and emulate successful sites without understanding the copywriting principles behind the site.

    And don't get me started on this whole new crop of wannabe copywriters (many of whom don't even have English as a first language!) trying to rip off long copy format without knowing all the subtleties of what makes for a compelling pitch.

    Having the "same look" as a well-done long copy page does not mean that a poorly written page has the "same salesmanship" and craftsmanship that goes into a well done piece either.

    Your insights are always fascinating, and they work. I always enjoy learning from your approach to the craft.

    Like you've said, good copywriting starts with good salesmanship. So everyone should (have already) read all the sales books, seminars etc, as a foundation for writing great copy.

    Much of the sales training has a major focus on overcoming objections (which, by the end of the pitch, shouldn't be there any more due to the great job the salesperson did of uncovering specific needs / sales detective work like Carlton says) ahead of time.. So learning how to be a great salesperson is a prerequisite for becoming a successful copywriter.

    Ken
  • Long or Short Copy?

    Intelligently...
    train your subconscious to 'decide'.


    If you want to dramatically
    trigger your visitor's "hot buttons"
    and close a sale in just 2' minutes
    for "instant gratification" products,
    craft your copy to being...



    Orgasmic!

    To whom do you think I "listened"
    to coin hypnotic...mind-mesmeric...
    ultra sensuous...gravity-free...
    "now-I-know-where-my-credit-card-is"
    record-braking sales pitches?

    It's...



    Sigmount Freud!
  • edward
    One look at the headline is all I need to weed out hype. That includes most of Michael Fortin's headlines. And yes, even if I'm interested in the product or service, I will avoid it like the plague if I see a 20 or 30 word headline in red promising me something extraordinary, which, by the way, is in most of Fortin's headlines.
  • Paul Schneider
    Edward,

    Sounds like you have an overly simplistic way of processing information.

    Just because a claim seems extraordinary to you does not mean it is hype - it may mean you have a limited sense of possibility.

    When a friend once told me he knew how to make 10% a month trading the stock market I spent an hour telling him why he was wrong before becoming his student.

    I was richly rewarded when I allowed the possibility that his claim was not hype.

    And it wasn´t.

    Good luck to you.
  • edward
    Yes. My way of processing information is simplistic. It's called a bullshit detector. And it turns on when stupid headlines scream out in their 30 point typeface. Sorry, but the meta-message on most sales letters screams hype!
  • I have to chime in with my $0.02 cents worth.

    Long copy works, when you have an interested buyer and whomever wrote the copy - did it well.

    Shel
  • On the topic of hypey copy on the web, I think part of the problem is the availability of "fill in the blanks" sales letters.

    Now, these can be great resources if used properly. The problem is that a lot of people using them don't seem to understand the principles behind them.

    Kevin Francis
  • Great post Michael, I hope Sylvia and you have a great Christmas holiday. My two cents is great copy to me is written with compassion, heart and concern for who's reading the copy. Most copy even if it's pretty good, you can tell is always about them (not the reader) and making a buck.

    As the great saying goes, "No one cares about what your saying or selling, until they know how much you care."
  • Les
    Sorry to hear the news about Sylvia.
    I would gladly trade you what I know about health for what you know about copywriting. You have my email.
  • Hey Mike, great post.

    The "passion" part is, as you've said, where people go sideways. Think about how someone who loves a certain band can go off on a rant that will leave non-fans rolling their eyes, checking their watch, and making excuses to leave. But for other fans, it's the entry point for a longer conversation that can go on for hours.

    You and I have sat at a bar talking rock and roll for an hour, easy... and other people nearby, who might have enjoyed hearing us talk about marketing, just gave up and turned away because the conversation wasn't in their wheelhouse.

    Screw 'em. With you, I wanna talk about our shared passions, and our love of music transcends even advertising and marketing.

    I got to know Frank Kern this same way. Halbert and I bonded over non-business stuff early on, and that fueled our friendship much more than any money-making enterprises.

    One man's boring rant is another man's fascinating revelation.

    Side note: Also, in tune with what you've posted here, you CAN bore even hard-core types who SHOULD be interested in what you have to say.

    This is why rookies need to hone their story-telling chops. If you're passionate about something, and talking to someone else equally passionate... then something is desperately wrong if you're losing them with your pitch.

    The best long copy is actually a very targeted one-sided conversation IN THE POCKET of the reader. Like a good bass player totally zoned in on your kick drum.

    It's a team effort to sell anything. You and the prospect, getting in rythym.

    Good stuff, Michael.

    John Carlton
  • Ah, that ole long-copy versus short-copy chestnut again.

    Let's not forget that we copywriters are not necessarily the target market for many of those sales letters.

    If long copy converts, it doesn't matter if we don't like it, although there's probably always room for improving conversion rates.

    As Ted Nicholas says, sales copy can never be too long. It can only be too boring.
  • This post could have been easily cut in half without losing any pertinent content. The length annoyed me, frankly.
  • @Jennifer Liston - But Jennifer, I'm not debating the length issue here. (I've laid that one to rest on this blog many times in the past.) I'm specifically referring to long hypey copy. "Ginsu-style" copy, as some of the naysayers call them. And yes, you're right. They are boring -- and that's my point. It's because the writer doesn't know how to sell and tell great stories.

    Thanks for dropping by!
  • Great article, Michel. It spelled out some very good points.
  • Happy Holidays, Michel, and the very best to Sylvie.

    I appreciated your article. I have done my best to learn from all copy I can relate to your frustration with puffy yet insubstantial copy.

    Before I ever discovered marketing, I earned a degree in philosophy (yes, laugh away, they all do) . . . Much of what I studied was translated from German (folks like Hegel and Nietzsche) and I learned to recognize and appreciate the spirit that lives inside the words, by which they are vivified and imbued with passion and distinction. Now when I write copy, I work it over until I "feel" it in a similar fashion (and usually it's reduced to about 1/2 the initial size).

    Things get a little dicey when, for instance, in an internet marketing-based sales pages, a reader may be so unfamiliar with the genre that he or she can be sold anything because the copy is so bombastic and overwhelming. They think: "oh, who could lie so blatantly, people don't do that!". I've been there, and ended up with a training program that was thin and incomplete (and billed me for months after I canceled- put on by a "famous guru" no less). But I was sold on the copy, my "feelings" deceived me. But also they wanted more from me than my intellectual consent that "cogito ergo sum".

    Sometimes I'd like to ask a successful copywriter if he or she feels any ethical qualms ever, especially when writing copy for someone else. What if you found out you actually helped to sell a ponzi scheme or a drug that actually was harmful?

    I miss your copywriters board. I learned from it. I hope you and Sylvie have wonderful holidays.
  • Donald
    i wanted to copy write my songs music
  • @Donald - Donald, what you're looking for is copyright, not copywrite. You're looking to register the "rights" to the copy -- or to copy (your songs, in this case), rather than "writing" the copy (i.e., advertising content). This is a copy writing blog, not about copyrighting. Sorry.
  • Frankly Michael, I found your post too long! When it comes to Direct Mail, or web copy, I always skip to the end of some long winded marketer's copy to see if financially their product doesn't require the sale of my first born. If it's within my price range, I may go back and peruse a bit more, but my time is certainly more valuable than reading hyped up copy.

    I just wanted to wish your wife well on her upcoming surgery. Take good care of her!

    Kristin
  • Hi, Michel:

    Thanks for your insight! Now to Donald, I will gladly offer my services of “copywriting” your songs’ lyrics then we can share the “copyrights” to those songs. How’s that sound? ;)
  • Happy holidays, all. Great points as always. Weaving the hook and compelling story elements into the pitch is key as you bring up.

    An apt analogy, and John gets to this too, is the difference in us musicians and our audiences: poorly written long copy is like suffering through a set of missed notes by a rookie garage band that is both loud and sounds like crap... whereas engaging our audiences with world-class copy is like going to a Beatles concert live (or the Police/ACDC/Eagles/Madonna/whoever), where the audience is on their feet during the entire 2-hour set Plus wants an encore.

    It's not the length, it's the message-to-market match, being "in the pocket" during the whole performance, engaging the audience and having them on their feet and rocking, by the end of the show. That's another reason I still like being a musician (and watching great shows, like the Cirque du Soleil's "O" at the Bellagio), and concert dvds. Lots of analogies there for copywriters.

    To profits,

    Ken

    p.s. fact: when I was at a recent traders' expo, talking with competitors, I remember one guy saying "my customers hate long copy" as the reason why he didn't use it in his (less successful) sites, being familiar with my stuff. I sagely nodded my head in seeming agreement, saying right, I should probably shorten all my stuff too. Let him keep on thinking that. Lol. Let the competition keep on using short non-persuasive but more corporate looking sites. Please! While I keep making 7 figures. It's all good.
  • Very well made points as usual -- one last "benchmark" to add that's worth thinking about... I've written many long-copy salesletters this last 10 years for my business, and my most successful six-figure pulling salesletters (of 25-40 pages in length) always take at least 40-60 hours to create, often much more (as many as 200 hours of work, or more, has gone into some of my letters).

    Because it takes a long, long time to carefully figure out the right sales approach, the formatting, the graphics that'll convert, and the right "sequencing" of the pitch... how to engage and build a Sugarman-style "greased chute" that gets the reader from start to finish, build credibility, urgency, perceived value, contrast, message-to-market match, and the rest of it.

    Many of the poorly-written long letters out there (mostly for $47-$97 type products on affiliate network driven sites), are ones hastily copycat-done by inexperienced people, (like Michel points out, without the sales and persuasion skills) -- while a well-crafted letter is engaging and makes the sale, like a terrific sales professional delivers.

    So that's a couple of pointers, #1 you need to learn how to become a successful sales professional (study Gitomer and others), #2 have the work ethic to be easily prepared to invest 40+ hours of your time (or hired copywriters' time) to make a world-class letter, and #3 figure out how to spend all the money you'll make if you do the first two correctly. :)

    To success,

    -ken
  • Yeah, you are write, when someone says, "the truth", it will depend on the person.

    For many people, this will sound natural while for others I'll say (hmm, at last...)

    It's true that many of the long copies are not so good these days.

    Just read anything from Gary bencievenga (I hope I spelled it right), and you see the difference.

    PLUS, as an affiliate marketer, I can tell when a copy is well written, espacially for high priced products.

    I've had $2000 products sell better than $47 ebooks. (this is in the IM niche)

    Franck
  • Michel,
    As always you provide great information.

    I am curious as one your posts asks the question does the sex of the copywriter matter? Or

    Does the sex of the copywriter matter depending upon the audience and subject matter.

    I have seen no research on this topic do you know of any?

    Happy Holidays. On a personal note, I met you and your wife before you were married and wish you both the best. Regards, Gail Barsky
  • Michel,
    The post illustrates the point, (at least in my way of thinking.)
    I read the whole post because it was interesting.
    That's good copy, I understood it, enjoyed it,and most importantly, I learned from it.
    I am far from being a copywriter, however I do appreciate good copywriting, and you stand second to no man Michel
    Thanks for the post.
    Larry
  • Mike the Thai Guy
    Hi Michel,
    I have read this post with interest and all I can say is that hypey writers of crappy copy soon go bust. They will relieve us of going to the trouble of reading their stuff.

    However we all learned our art somewhere and the internet is the fastest way is know of testing crap and learning how to write better copy....

    You don't have to read it...

    Have a fabulous Xmas and think of us sweating here in our jungle hide out...

    Mike the Thai Guy
  • Shanika Journey
    I certainly agree with this article. I've been seeing alot of hypy type copy that doesn't try to "click" or use any empathy, real benefits, no reasons why,and no story.

    I've seen many copies where they just try to shove the info down you're throat and go for the buy. It is a turn off. And as a person working non-stop on my copy daily and working my tail off, it's pretty wild to see that.

    I always felt that a connection between you and the prospect's emotions, feelings, needs, concerns were always a value and of great importance.

    I just feel like when that is ignored in your copy, people do feel like you are not thinking about them. Their money looks more valuable to you than the actual results they want. It really does suck. Lack of" customer care or concern" is a huge killer to any business I believe.
  • Hi Michel,

    Enjoyed your post. It seems that the reason there is so much "crappy copy" out there is that, there aren't too many IM products that teach the value of good salesmanship in print.

    Everything about the products on the market scream, "just add water". There are some decent products out there that languish in anonymity because copywriting is more of an after thought than a requirement.

    After reading many salesletters and analyzing what makes me buy and what makes my B.S. detector go off, I quickly realized the importance of being able to write an effective salesletter.

    I know that it will take a good while to come anywhere nears to where you are, but that is why your blog and the information you share is so valuable.

    Anyway that's enuf of that. Great post.

    Learning and working at applying,

    Nando
  • Margaret
    Michel,
    I'm sure this is totally not relevant to your blog.
    Only thing is my curosity. Question being. What is the proper spelling of your name? I assumed you were a Michael and that's what I see in most of your comments, with an ocassional Michel. . It came
    up because I was counting all the Michaels' in my life. For instance: my brother, my son-in-law my grandson, my stepson, then all the Michaels in my emails.
    Totally unimportant to you, only my curosity.
    But I would like to know.
    Margaret.
  • @Margaret - Margaret, that question is common. That's why I posted a blog post to answer it, here:

    http://www.michelfortin.com/my-name-is-michael-...

    Thanks for visiting my blog!
  • Thanks heaps for that. I've been guilty of 'bore the crap out of people' copy myself. Thinking i was 'tuned in' to the market cause I was trying too damn hard to 'get it right' instead of actually trying to genuinely relate to them.

    Your article is a reminder to go back to some of my pages and review them, ta.
  • mimi
    @Eric Bonnici -

    Would love to see your ad copy on Lennon novel. Pls. forward url...

    Fellow copywriter, Lover of Lennon
  • Roger Choate
    Great article!

    What produces great corporate copy in the end?

    Methanks it's a subtle combination of the skills of the copywriter herself and her ability to sway the client. That can require diplomatic skills and sheer guts.
  • I love your thoughts on crappy copy. I am afraid the problem is in many cases (my own included) is that most of us are not trained enough on copy writing and we don't take advantage of courses and training from people like you.

    Thanks for your inspiration and the kick in the butt for me to do a better job!
  • ericgaluppo
    "There’s a dif­fer­ence between short copy and brief copy. Between long copy and long-​​winded copy. Between pithy copy that may still be long and short copy that’s curt, leaves the reader hang­ing, and doesn’t tell enough to make the sale."

    Well said! Kudos on another excellent post.
  • I think a significant problem is not just in the copy, or the copywriter, but in the visual template.

    Every time we see those websites, we think, "oh, man, another one of THOSE" and hit "close." Unless I've clicked into a pitch that I'm absolutely and ultimately the target for, I just don't bother any more. And even then, I give it a quick scan rather than a full read. Those templates have a very "these people bought a marketing kit" feel to them, and if the reader doesn't shake that impression, no amount of great copy will save it.

    So, if you do have great copy, no matter how "Ginsu"-like, I think it's important to present it in a way that doesn't look cookie-cutter. Once everyone in the world has seen that marketing template 3 or 4 times, they will also have the distinct impression that the vendor has neither the resources nor the desire to sell their original product in an original way.

    Greg
  • Great post Michel, interesting insight on the factors of copywriting.
  • Excellent post, Michel!

    Fact is, if you take 2 salespeople of the same caliber and put them in front of the same number of people, the one that spends ONE HOUR versus 10 minutes will very likely sell more products.

    Why?

    He had a chance to pull out every piece of supporting documentation... performed multiple demonstrations... showed testimonials from customers who love what he's selling... answered all their questions... and maybe even called a few past customers on his speakerphone right there in front of the prospect. Wow! This guy "threw everything including the ol' kitchen sink" at his prospect! If there was ANY chance of selling the guy, this salesman did it.

    His counterpart, Mr, Short Pitch? He had only enough time to make a quickie presentation and hope it was enough to offer sufficient credibility and fully convince.

    As we know, copywriting is likened to a salesperson in print. Truth is, crappy long copy isn't stronger than good short copy. But good long copy HAS, DOES, and WILL CONTINUE to beat short copy… no matter what you're selling.

    Debate over.

    I look forward to your future posts...

    Success!
    Drew Eric Whitman, D.R.S.
    Direct Response Surgeon(tm)

    Author of,
    "CA$HVERTISING: How to Use More
    Than 100 Secrets of Ad-Agency Psychology to
    Make Big Money Selling Anything to Anyone"
    www.Cashvertising.com
  • jeffersoncitychiropractor
    Much of the sales training has a major focus on overcoming objections (which, by the end of the pitch, shouldn't be there any more due to the great job the salesperson did of uncovering specific needs / sales detective work like Carlton says) ahead of time
    Learn to copy write
  • Very great post for a "hot" topic ! Thanks a lot for this. Now I see some facts of copy / copywriting much clearer.
  • Such a good post, Michael. I remember Michael Masterson pointing out that hypey copy was copy with no research behind it. If you know your product and what makes it distinctive, you don't need those adjectives. It's the old writer's motto that goes beyond the art of copywriting - show don't tell.

    I also agree with your point that relationship marketing and direct response is not mutually exclusive. I've found success in building a relationship with my prospect by making my copy personable, engaging. I write with passion for the product and passion for helping my prospect solve a problem. That passion = compassion = relationship. NOthing builds credibility and moves towards a sale better.
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